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I am looking to buy a larger truck in the future, and intend on towing horses a little more than casually. If I use the trailer I have available currently, it would be a 4-horse straightload (No LQ). So, add in four horses approx. 1200lbs each, couple saddles and bridles, bale of hay...What truck can handle that with ease but isnt more truck than needed to get the job done?
Ill probably buy used, 2003 or newer. I prefer automatic, and I need a full backseat and doors b/c Ive got a toddler and possibly more to come in the future. No diesel.
Reason for not wanting a diesel was mainly decided by whats going on with prices, and from what I hear the decisions in government to phase them out. Yes, they last better and get better mileage but arent they bigger polluters too? (Id really love a hybrid if they ever make them good with trucks) Please correct me if Im wrong! I wouldnt want to exclude them from my decision if none of that made sense. **Id love to be able to run on biodiesel but am clueless about how that works.
A diesel is great for this kind of use. for heavy loads, the mileage is close to twice as good. But if you don't want diesel, then the 6.8L ford F350 or even F450 is great. The gm trucks with 3500 series one ton with a 6.0L gas is good too. Just get the right rear end ratio for pulling that weight at highway speed and you should be good. go to www.fordtrucks.com or www.fullsizechevy.com and get an idea of what works for your needs. I can tell you the 6.8L gets pretty good mileage for the work it does and really loves to pull large loads.
the government is not phasing them out, they are just requiring better emissions. The new ones are pretty clean running, although not as much as a gas engine. You should at least look at them. You did not say how far you are going to travel. I know 2 people that pull fifth wheel rvs. Both went on a 3000 mile round trip. One was a big gas chevy one ton and one a diesel one ton. The gas driver spent twice the money in gas than the diesel due to the mileage being lower in the gas engine for that kind of weight.
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Hey!
We are thinking about getting a car/truck that can pull a little, not fancy, no changing room and stuff, just basic 2-horse trailer. we have never had a trailer before though, so we dont know how much they weigh, what kind of car/truck could pull it with 2 aprox. 1300 lb horses. We need the cheapest vehicle possible and I need to know how much the trailer plus the horses would weigh.
Thx!
You can not go by price for a truck to haul horses!!! You need a minimum of 114 inch's for wheelbase. To haul safely. One of the biggest mistakes you can make is to put gas mileage ahead of available power on your priority list. Vehicle weight is one of several factors that affect the stability of your overall hauling rig. Ideally, vehicle weight should exceed your loaded tow weight: that way, the loaded trailer doesn't end up being the tail that wags the dog. If you were to a pair a light towing vehicle with a substantially heavier towed load, you'd find it difficult to steer and stop. Downhill travel would be especially dangerous - the trailer could sway out of control, pulling your entire rig off the road. Loaded tow weight: This is the weight of your trailer, plus the weight of your horses, feed, and gear. The greater the loaded tow weight, the more strain your towing vehicle must endure, and the bigger, and better-equipped vehicle you must have if you're to haul without accident or breakdown. You need a 8cylinders to haul safely. Always check tires too. If hauling one horse it goes on the driver side.
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Me and my parents were at a barrel race and we were planing to stay all night. My horse has trouble tieing and spooks over every thing. But he had been good for a while, So I tried him up for about 15 - 20 min. When I came back the trailer next to us had him tyed to there trailer and he was not moving. The person told me someone gave him to them and said they were looking for us. The person that found him said he was wondering around and that my other horse kicked him, but I dont beleive my other horse Annie would do that????? I took him and loaded him in the trailer and he looked a little sore. I ran to my parents to tell them the news and they were not surprized. So in about another 15 min we came back and we were going to give them a bath and I unhooked Jimmy and he didnt want to move and almost got stuck on the way out. He wouldnt walk, I almost had to drag him (he is a thoughrobred and has very high energy(it was not normal)) So we looked a little closer and he had a cut on the top of his butt and he has very high witherers and they were very sore. We have a 3 horse living quarter made out of steel. He ripped the bolts out of a steal trailer. He wouldnt move and he was shaking and anytime you got near him his lip would like shake or quiver. His right butt cheek and almost all of his withers are in pain and his withers are swolen. We called the vet but since it is sunday he has to wait until Monday morning to get his x-rays. We love Jimmy and dont want to loose him.
We think that we left him and a tractor (very scary in his mind) drove by and scared him so he pulled back and the rope snaped and he flipped over.
So here is my question
1. Do you think he broke his withers
2. Is there something els we can do to help him tonight
3. How long will it be until I could ride him again
4. Will he be ridble again
5. How ridable - no more competeing?
6. Should I completly retire him
7. You all say there is places to get money for vet bills - where
8. Is it my falt
OH and we gave him one bute when it happened and 2 thins morning
To show you how much we love him look here at him
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make sure to watch the video!!!!
THANKS TO ALL OF THE ANSWERS!!!!!!
Here is what happened to Jimmy :
We took him this morning to the vet bright and early. They took him drugged him up and took X-rays. In 2 hours they told us the news. He has a couple brakes and fractures on his withers. There was no brakes on his neck or back only on his withers.
The good thing is that because we went we found out he has a horrible heart and if we didnt know he could have died in the middle of my barrel racing run. So now that I know I can be careful about what I do.
The vet said he might be able to ride in about a year. We will go to the vet again in about 6 months. To make sure it is healing correctly. If it does not heal correctly he will need surgery.
His treatment from the vet :
1. lift his food so he does not bend his neck
2. two tablets of bute in the morning and night for a week
3. After one week of two tablets, lower it to one tablet in the morning and night
4. Then after that no bute
5. Keep him in his stall with no exciing things for a couple of weeks
6. Return to vet to check prgress
AS for Jimmy's future.
No riding for a year, then little and very light riding.
We are considering leting him live down the street at an old folks home, so he will just be loved with no work.
First of all, don't be blaming yourself too much. No, you probably shouldn't have left him tied up and alone, if he wasn't good at it. But whats done is done, and I'll bet you won't ever do it again. btw - don't ever tie a horse to anything if it isn't wearing a breakaway/leather halter.
I'm not really answering in order, but -
if he's in a lot of pain, I would give him banamine, not bute. If all you have is bute, give him 2 more tonight. Don't put a blanket or anything on him- it won't feel good. Can you hang up his hay so he doesn't have to reach down for it? Same with water.
Its possible he broke his withers - but in my experience the usually look "smooshed" - if they look "normal", but swollen, they might not be broken.
If he broke them, a lot depends on what he broke and where it went. If the withers aren't smooshed looking, the bones are hopefully still in the right place and should heal ok, but it could take a while - 6 months or more. I have seen horses with badly broken withers come back to full work, but they were all quite a bit younger than your horse. I think it will depend on whether or not he has done more than soft tissue damage. He might be absolutely fine in a week or 2.
You'll know more after the vet sees him. Sounds like x-rays are in order.
The only way I know of to get money for vet bills is something called "care credit" which is basically a credit card. Ask your vet, they might have more information.
http://www.carecredit.com/about.html
Good luck - I hope the old boy is just bruised and sore and is as good as new very soon!
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I have a grandfather and he has a biiiiig yard and I mean BIG. He has 2 gardens and I thought it would help him to get a horse that would haul things and stuff year-round. What breed would do good for yard work and everything but wont go all crazy on something??
getting a horse is a big deal. if go looking for one, make sure it's BROKE! if you want it to pull, then you should get some type of draft. drafts are big and gentle... usually. when you go looking, try to find one with a big "flat" head. it means he's a hard worker. look for a Percheron or a Cylsdale or something.
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This summer I bought a Featherlite aluminum 3 horse gooseneck trailer. It hadn't crossed my mind that I would have to worry about it structurally with snow until a neighbor, who owns a Sundowner aluminum trailer told me her story.She claimed that several years ago they went into their horse trailer in the winter to get a piece of tack, and found the doors weren't shutting properly. When they checked they found the weight of the snow on the roof was making the walls spread slightly, which was causing the problem with the doors.
I've always owned steel trailers before, and snow build up wasn't a problem. Here's my question? Have any of you experienced problems with snow damaging your aluminum trailer? If so, what is the solution? I have no place to put it under roof. And climbing up and knocking off the snow will be tough as it's very high. Is this an old wives' tale, or would a reasonable amount of snow cause problems? I live in Alberta, Canada, where we can gets lots of cold weather, but often our total accumlation of snow is under a foot or two, and with our winter winds that snow very seldom gets to build up on roofs.
Thanks for your advice.
If there is enough snow. Snow is deceptively heavy and the weight can cause damage to trailers. The trailers roofs aren't designed to withstand much load they need to save weight with the roofing so that they can strengthen the floor to support more weight.
Also the trailer loses structural rigidity when its doors are open, so if you see lots of snow on your roof, clear it off before opening the doors. I've seen the roof collapse when someone opened the doors to a custom utility trailer with an aluminum roof and steel everything else. this happened with just 16 inches of snow on the roof. If it is less than 8 inches it should not be a problem.
And snow weighs over 5 lbs per cubic foot (can be as high as 6 or 7 lbs/cubic foot) so if you have a 16 foot by 8 foot roof with one foot of snow on it then it weighs over 640 lbs.
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Ok so currently I have 2 horse trailers and 2 trucks. when we started out my dad already owned an SUV (BMW 4.8 X5) so we had a truck and just needed a trailer so we bought a 2 horse straight load warmblood size with a tack room exiss trailer (obvi. bumper pull). we loved it.
we then got more horses and were traveling more so we got a 6 horse goose neck (i was showing about 5 horses every weekend in season) straight load WB size exiss trailer and an f.450 to pull it.
we are now down sizing again and no longer have thef.450 or the 6 horse trailer. we still have the BMW and the BP trailer. i was just wondering what everyones view as BP vs. GN were. do you have a preference as far as safety, handling etc? i never really had a proplem with my BP but really did enjoy driving the biger rig with the GN. it was a breeze to drive and i always felt totally in control. I trailer my horses (currently 2 of them) to my trainers 3 times a week. where i live it is very "hilly" and although it is most highway driving part of the drive is on a two lane, "hilly" drive and i alsways get worried pulling my horses with a BP. i just fele like i have this hught truck and this huge trailer held together by a little "ball" just seems unsafe
anyway, this isnt really a question its just a "preference"
either way i'm planning on getting an f.350 (normal body style, not a dually) and a 2 horse WB size exiss GN trailer.
thanks in advance for advice, opinions, stories etc.
EDIT- in the beginning i said we "currently have 2 trucks and trailers" we do not, we just have the X5 and the BP trailer. i got mixed uo because i wanted to say we HAD at one point and are now down sizing.
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well our suv had a v10 and really i never had a problem...at all!!
it was a dream to pull, but the fact it was a bumper pull is what i didint care for.,..not the truck. but i do agree that the best thing to pull with is a truck and at least an 3/4 ton for most towing. i see people using their f.150s and it shocks me, really. i couldnt imagina hauling my big boys with that small of a truck...but who knows!
the BMW handled very well with the v10, a great transmission and electric brakes. i dont believe i was/have ever put my horses at risk. they mean the world to me and are worth more than my house when added together. when going out of state/more than an hour or so they rode with my trainer. i see plenty of people with there f.150 pulling some rinky dink stock trailer and your going to criticize ME, pulling my horses in "the ultimate driving machine" and an exiss? haha.do you know anything about then engine in the BMW? or any statistics on the vehicle? like i said i have an f.450 and am planning on down sizing to a 350 with the regular body style. we had the BMW when we moved our horses to our property and after building an indoor arena, an 8 stall barn and fencing 20 acres...the BMW was all we had to get our horses to the trainers which is about 12 miles away on mostly highway...around 1.5 miles on "back" but well kept roads.
we didnt have the BMW for style, it is a safe vehicle and after putting about $300 grand in fencing, a new barn, stalls, footing for two arenas, turing an arena into an indoor, getting 2 new horses and showing over the country, money was a little tight for a new truck. i do believe i said i had an f450 and 6 horse that i have been using to haul my horses (used the f450 on the 2 horse as well when i had it) and plan on getting, wait no AM getting an f350 (regular body style, not a dually) this spring. i have taken my horses about 5 times in the BMW since owning it. and alot of people use SUV's. i see espeditions, hummeres, and even tiny trucks like f150's at horse shows.anyway, you guys were no help. i wasnt asking if you liked my cars or tailers or not. and at the end of the day my horses are all safe and living in a brand new srtate of the art facility that their ignorant mother got for them. hm nice try guys . and because i own 4 bmws i dont know how to get my hands dirty. w/e. envy
Like others have said...it's not the engine alone that matters. It's the wheel base too.
Although,
lol...I'm one of those that hauls my horses in a rinky dink stock trailer and a F150. I must say...I've never had a problem. My little F150 has a motor that doesn't have a problem in any way, shape or form in hauling my horses. It has the correct wheel base. Exact wheel base as my F250. I hauled my horses from South Dakota to Georgia with that F150 and the rinky dink stock trailer too. I get 15 miles to the gallon in the F150, which is why I choose to drive it. I do drive a little slower when using that truck and hauling my trailer but I don't see anything wrong with that.
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I remember it used to be that as long as the vehicle was powerful enough it could be anything, i:e, a family saloon could be used. But a few years ago, i remember this changed. Can anyone clarify please?
Sorry, i should have said that i'm in the UK. I remember something happening a few years back regarding a change because i remember people complaining that they would not be able to use their saloon cars any longer to take their horses to shows in a trailer. That they would have to get a 4x4 or a lorry. And you never see saloons and trailers at shows anymore.
simply, you can't tow a load that is heavier than the towing vehicle unless you have 4 wheel drive. It's a bit more complex than that but in effect that means no saloons because any trailer with a horse in it weighs more than any 2 wheel drive vehicle I know, unless you have a transit van maybe.
Remember that it's not pulling it thats the problem, it's STOPPING it
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